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5.20: Why Are They Waiting Months Later?

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Bill "challenges" a teacher who says the teachers need shorter turnaround time for data reporting. Bill asks, "Why are they waiting months later? Why aren't they looking at their rosters?" Then he recounts how teachers at the school with whom he has talked start tabulating their scores and making instructional decisions without waiting for someone else to do it. The K representative then describes how they did that as a grade level, since they had to tabulate and discuss C track's scores before C track went off track (recall this is a year round school; there is always one track off). As the K representative finishes, Bill says that "coming together as a grade level"--and the K rep adds, "right after they were due"--"is really important for individual teachers to go back and look at individual results for their class."

T	

	Well, I asked them, I said, if we gave immediate
	feedback for you and how your kids perform in your
	classroom, if there was a way to do that, like, we had
	talked about being able to tabulate it quickly and get it
	back.  I said, would you find that information valuable? 
	They said, Oh, yeah, you could do that? so it was  kind of
	like well, I'm giving the test but I'm going something right
	away that I can use in my classroom to make a decision about
	how many kids I am going to teach differently and modify, as
	opposed to something that's going to be given months later
	that--

Bill	

	Well, but, Mark, why they are waiting months later?
	I mean, why aren't they looking are their rosters, you know
	what I mean?

T	

	I can't answer that question, I can't answer, I'm just
	saying that,

Ts	

	(talking)

T	

	What was that?

Bill	

	Cause I've talked to a lot of teachers who say, you
	know, independent of what AALT does in tabulating
	school-wide, who basically do the assessment, record the
	results (T:  Yeah) before they tally, and then they start
	scrutinizing (T: Right), you know, which of my kids move
	from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3.

T	Yeah, I am not arguing, I am stating a fact

Bill	

	But, they're probably not doing that

T	

	It's possible

Bill	

	Ok, fair enough, I'm just...

T	

	One thing I noticed, was C track finished their, you
	know, their results earlier, so we kind of had to tabulate C
	track results so we could show them how they did and then B
	and A finished more at the same time.  It was I think it was
	like B and C finished at the same time and then in the
	beginning of the year because when they are on track
	together, and then, at the end of the year, B and A finish
	at the same.  But if you don't, if you don't, show them how
	they did like right after the results were done, like we did
	show C track before they went off track and finish their
	year, it was helpful.  Also by doing it that way throughout
	the year you could-- the other tracks even if though they
	haven't done their testing yet saw what was happening and
	then it kind of drove what lessons we were going to pick all
	along.

Bill	

	So, what, if I am hearing you right

(they start speaking at the same time) T	

	The AALT chairperson did it

Bill	

	--coming together as a grade level to look at the
	results (T:  mm hm) probably--

T	

	Right after they were due.

Bill	

	--is really important for getting individuals
	teachers go back and look at the individual results for that
	class.

T	

	Right.